On April 15, 2010, The Daily Horse ran a piece about two lesbians and their family who were the victims of a homophobic hate crime. The photo accompanying the piece is reproduced again, below.
Today, probably in honor of Gay Pride month and all the Pride parades and festivities taking place around the world, a response to that post popped up from someone named “Nick.” It seemed to present an excellent opportunity to once again set the Gay record straight, as it were. Somewhat surprisingly, the article had a comment two months after the fact, but, who knows? Maybe “Nick” was Googling the story…or himself.
“how did you come to the conclusion that they were “homophobic”? do you even know what that means? are you a psychoanalyst? do you know that sigmund freud said that homosexuality is a mental disorder? maybe you should just stick to the facts. hate or disgust do not equal fear or phobia.”
Hi Nick, thanks for participating. Yes, I believe I do know what “homophobic” means, and, as I do, I believe it’s the right choice of words for the story. At its most basic it means a fear and loathing of homosexuals.
To answer your question: No, I am not a psychoanalyst.
Yes, I do know what Freud said, and while I’m not at all convinced Freud is fully relevant in this discussion, as some of his theories about sexuality (of all kinds) have brought decades of both agreements and disagreement among the mental health crowd, you brought him up, so we may as well get what he really said on record. There are many, many places one can find this information, but if you look, you will find that you’ve got Freud completely ass backwards, which he, I dare say, would find amusing, maybe even telling.
Sigmund Freud’s basic theory of human sexuality was that he believed all human beings were innately bisexual, and that they become heterosexual or homosexual as a result of their experiences with parents and others (Freud, 1905). Nevertheless, Freud agreed with Havelock Ellis that a homosexual orientation should not be viewed as a form of pathology. Freud personally found homosexuality unappealing, but that did not prevent him from trying to keep his personal feelings out of his professional views on the subject; indeed, there is some written evidence that Professor Freud the mentor was sensitive and kind to Carl Jung after Jung confessed a great discomfort working with Freud due to his own (Jung’s) consciously erotic feelings and emotional adoration of his professor.
In another instance of Freud’s professional stance on homosexuality, in a rather famous letter, written in 1935, Freud said:
Well, his handwriting is a bit difficult, so perhaps a typed transcript of part of the letter will help:
“Homosexuality is assuredly no advantage, but it is nothing to be ashamed of, no vice, no degradation, it cannot be classified as an illness; we consider it to be a variation of the sexual function produced by a certain arrest of sexual development. Many highly respectable individuals of ancient and modern times have been homosexuals, several of the greatest men among them (Plato, Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci, etc.). It is a great injustice to persecute homosexuality as a crime, and cruelty too….” S. Freud
So, Nick, maybe you meant Richard von Krafft-Ebing, who described Homosexuality as a degenerative sickness in his Psychopathia Sexualis.
Or maybe you meant St Thomas Aquinas who condemned both homosexual acts and other nonprocreative sexual behavior as “unnatural,” and which received official expression in his writings. He appears not to have taken on the subject of pedophilia, however, and it has continued throughout the Catholic Church. Well, it could have been an oversight, I suppose.
Anyway, Nick, it really wasn’t until the High Middle Ages that homosexuality moved from a sphere of being largely ignored to one of fertile fodder for various legal, religious, and medical political positions about which one could agree, preferably fervently, or disagree, preferably silently, if one wished to stay alive. Talkin’ ‘bout the High Middle Ages here. And, wow! Here we are in 2010. Time really does fly when you’re Gay. A MiniBeni, if you will. Beyond that, it might be worth it to point out that homosexuality as a disease was completely removed from the The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM), published by the American Psychiatric Association in 1986. About 25 years ago.
As for sticking to the facts—your version, for instance, that hate and disgust do not equal fear or phobia, OK, let’s see how that would change the story. What I’m going to do is replace, with crossouts or parenthesis, all the words that were objectionable to you with your words. So, here’s the opening few paragraphs rewritten.
“In yet another stunning and heartbreaking example of man’s hatred and disgust inhumanity to man, a gay couple in Cape Coral, Florida, who tried to give their 16-year old daughter a car for her birthday, awoke the evening after the family birthday party to discover that homophobic thugs people with hatred and disgust had a (nasty) hateful and disgusted surprise for them.
The lesbian couple, who did not wish to be identified out of fear that they might incur retaliation of a (worse nature) more hateful and disgusted degree were in disbelief at what the hateful and disgusted people cowards had done to their cars and front door. The women’s 16-year daughter’s birthday car was not exempt from the damage of vandalism hatred and disgust.
The (homophobic) hate-filled and disgusted messages were spray-painted across the cars. The (vandals) haters and disgusted people wrote “dykes go to hell, go home, gays don’t belong here” and “lesbians equal hell”.
The (attack) hateful and disgusted event happened earlier this week, and the (perpetrators) disgusted haters are still at large.
The couple, who have two children, said the (vandals) hateful and disgusted people also (damaged) expressed hate and disgust on several lights in their front yard, as well as (cut through) left expressions of hate and disgust on the pool’s lanai.
When you hear and see one of the mother’s talking about the (cowardly act) hate and disgust, the tremble in her voice makes one mad as hell…”
Happier now, Nick?